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DS225 | Backstage Guide To Real Estate Investing | Matt Picheny

Matt Picheny is a real estate investor, Tony award winner, and author of the #1 best-selling book, Backstage Guide to Real Estate. He is focused on developing passive income streams that enable investors to write their own story and choose how they want to spend their time.

Matt has over 15 years of experience revitalizing and elevating communities through real estate investment and has invested in over 8,000 apartments nationwide. He is a licensed real estate agent and has earned both Commercial Real Estate & Real Estate Finance certificates from Boston University. Matt is a member of the Forbes Real Estate Council, the Fast Company Executive Board, and is an advisor to a PropTech company.

A PMI certified Project Management Professional, Matt is a digital marketing veteran whose 18-year career in the advertising world included working for some of the world’s largest advertising agencies, producing award-winning projects for Fortune 500 clients including Verizon, IBM, and Coca-Cola.

Matt and his wife have two Tony Awards® as co-Producers of the Broadway shows Moulin Rouge! and American Utopia. They have invested in many other theatrical productions including the iconic musicals Hamilton and Wicked.

A native of Orlando Florida, and a former actor, Matt still believes in happily ever after. He lives with his wife and their two daughters in Brooklyn, New York and in his downtime enjoys long walks on the beach, Broadway, Rock and Roll, and amazing barbecue.

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DS224 | Agent Sold His Way To Bigger Assets| Neil Timmins

A true visionary, dreamer, and problem-solver, Neil J. Timmins is on a mission to make a deep personal impact in the lives of his team members and business partners. Neil is committed to establishing a lasting legacy through his work as a real-estate investor and mentor. After co-raising $1,000,000 for the Maverick Investment Club at the University of Nebraska at Omaha, he went on to begin his career at Wells Fargo. From there, he launched into real estate.

In short order, he was recognized by the Wall Street Journal as one of the Top 100 RE/MAX teams and was the #1 RE/MAX Agent in Iowa by 29. He has been involved in over $300,000,000 in real estate transactions. Neil’s industry experience and portfolio depth ranges from residential to industrial. Neil is a believer in synergy and routinely partners with other investors on transactions.

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DS223 |How To Get Started in Short Term Rentals | Nancy Wallace-Laabs

Nancy Wallace-Laabs is a licensed real estate broker in the state of Texas. She has more than 15 years of real estate investing experience, owns several rental properties, and was a property manager for more than 12 years in North DFW area. Nancy has presented to audiences about how to find the right investment strategy, how to find the next real estate deal, and find the money to buy it! She has written two books and a step-by-step manual called The Profitable Landlord System –for anyone who is looking for a straight forward, no nonsense approach to finding, funding, and managing single family properties. Nancy created easy to follow and affordable online courses that can help anyone with their real estate investing journey – from using a $100.0 small dollar IRA to finding funding for your next project, we have the course that will take you to the next level.

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DS221 | How To Get Started in Industrial Real Estate Investing| Chad Griffiths

Chad entered the commercial real estate industry in 2004 and has completed over 500 transactions with clients ranging from local companies to large institutional owners. Chad has been a top 15 producer with NAI Canada-wide since 2013 and became a partner of the Edmonton office in 2015.

An active volunteer in the real estate and business community, Chad has previously served as Chair and board member of the Real Estate Council of Alberta (RECA), board member of NAIOP Edmonton, President of the South Edmonton Business Association and member of the City of Edmonton Strathcona Junction Advisory Committee. Chad currently sits on the University of Alberta’s Practice of Commercial Real Estate Course Advisory Committee.

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DS 219 |Scaling from 40 to 4,500 units for his passive investor client | Gregg Cohen

Gregg never intended to be an entrepreneur, but when the corporate world left him disillusioned, depressed, and demoralized, he decided to take a leap of faith. So he created JWB Real Estate Capital, a vertically integrated real estate investment company dedicated to making rental property investing easy for clients. Gregg doesn’t just want to own a successful business; he wants to change people’s lives. With 4,500+ rental properties under management, more than $40 million in positive cash flow returned since 2011, and 1,200+ clients served across 43 states and 13 countries, it’s safe to say real estate investment is the vehicle that helps him do both.

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DS 217 |How to Pay Less Taxes| Catherine Tindall

We're a team of professionals with varied experience in the field who saw many of the same problems in small and large firms alike–excessive focus on compliance, underserved clients, technological illiteracy, and too little strategic thinking. We set about building a new kind of practice, one focused on client relationships, efficiency, and tangible results. Our team serves executives, business owners, real estate investors/professionals, and high net worth individuals across the United States.

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The ONE Thing: Gary Keller

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DS 216 |How to Buy Real estate With Low Money Down| Chris Prefontaine

Chris Prefontaine is a 3-time best-selling author of Real Estate on Your Terms, The New Rules of Real Estate Investing, and Moneeka Sawyer’s Real Estate Investing for Women. He’s also the Founder and CEO of SmartRealEstateCoach.com and host of the Smart Real Estate Coach Podcast.

Chris has been in real estate for almost 30 years. His experience ranges from constructing new homes in the ‘90s and owning a Realty Executive Franchise to running his own investments (commercial & residential) and coaching clients throughout North America.

Today, Chris runs his own buying and selling businesses with his family team, which purchases 2-5 properties monthly, so they’re in the trenches every single week. They also help their Associates and students do the exact same thing all across North America, working together on another 10-15 properties every month.

Having been through several real estate cycles, Chris understands the challenges of this business and helps students navigate the constantly changing real estate waters.

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Contact: Chris Prefontaine https://smartrealestatecoach.com/

Shoe Dog: Phil Knight

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DS 215 |How to Make Your First Million| Andrew Abernathey

Mr. Abernathey is the Founder & CEO of Abernathey Holding Co. (management company). Mr. Abernathey began his investing career at the age of 13, investing in a variety of public securities and achieved an annual growth rate of 171.44% for 3 years. Since the beginning, Mr. Abernathey has been deeply interested in Warren Buffett’s value investing approach.

Prior to beginning his investment career in full earnest, Mr. Abernathey always had a deep interest in business. This passion was exhibited by Mr. Abernathey with the commencement of other business operations. Mr. Abernathey, alongside his brother, founded Abernathey Brothers Farm, which is in the business of planting, growing, and harvesting thousands of acres of small grains to then sell in the open market. The operations have quickly grown into multiple locations in Lansford and Bottineau North Dakota. Mr. Abernathey believes Mr. Buffett’s quote “One is a better businessman because he is an investor, and a better investor because he is a businessman.”

Mr. Abernathey launched AHC’s first value oriented investment partnership in August of 2012. AHC’s first investment partnership was inspired by the original 1950’s Warren Buffett partnership. Since inception, the investment partnerships have achieved market-beating returns for its investors/partners and has grown its assets under management.

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DS210 | From Quitting Day Job to Buying Apartments | Ken Gee

Kenneth is the founder and managing partner of KRI Partners and the KRI group of companies. He has more than 24 years of significant real estate, banking, private equity transaction, and principal investing experience. Throughout his career, he has been involved in transactions valued at more than $2.0 billion, much of which has included the acquisition, management, and financing of various multi-family real estate projects.

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DS209 | A New Way To Unlock Your Home Equity | Matthew Sullivan

QuantmRE's Equity Freedom Platform is a ground-breaking, patent-pending real estate investment and finance platform that has been designed to give homeowners and investors unprecedented access to the equity in single family homes. We're solving a major problem for homeowners who want to access the equity in their homes without taking on more debt. For investors, we have designed a platform to build, model, manage and trade personalized portfolios of investments based on this multi-trillion dollar asset class.

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DS208 | The Velocity of Money | Curtis May

Clients hire me because I understand the value in making progress quickly. I have a unique program that doesn't make the mistake so often made in financial services-only planning for the distant future. I know that, while long term planning is important, everyone has current financial needs they need help with. My unique program helps clients find money they often don't realize they're losing, and apply it to a wealth building strategy which complements their long term goals and current lifestyle needs. The clients we tend to work with want to become financially independent, usually before age 65. They are business owners, investors and families who are tired of giving up control of their hard earned money to strangers, and tired of relying on the stock market to continuously increase in value. Our clients want more control over their money. They are committed to lifelong learning and know that with the right education, they can find the best solution for their financial wellbeing.

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DS207 | Funding Your Deals Made Easy | Heather Dreves

I started with Secured Investment Corp in 2012 as an Investor Relations Manager. It was immediately realized that I could bring great value and strength to the Fund Management Team and I have been serving as the Director of Funding and as a Fund Manager ever since. I have been in the private money space for the past 15 years and previously held my Series 63 License. I have personally raised over $200 million dollars in my time with Secured Investment Corp.

Since joining the leadership team, the company has experienced exponential growth. I have been instrumental in developing relationships with investors and guiding them through the private money lending process. I hold a seat as a Fund Manager and have led key areas of growth, even while the economy continues to experience challenges in certain market segments. Together, with other members of the Fund Management Team, I continue to focus on growth and serving clients with the highest level of excellence. Additionally, my analytical and creative skills have been key to continued record growth.

I am a mother of two sons and an avid outdoor person spending most summer weekends at our lake cabin in Northern, Idaho. I am also is an avid CrossFit athlete and played college soccer where I met my husband of 26 years. I have a passion for what I do , my investors, and the success of the funds I manage.

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DS206 | Leveling Up Your Passive Income Game | Lisa Hylton

When I discovered passive real estate investing, it opened a door of opportunity I didn’t even know existed.

I’d been juggling the demands of a high-pressure career and investing in real estate on my own. I had no idea there was an easier way to invest, that didn’t require all of my time and sole responsibility.

Then, a colleague of mine introduce me to passive real estate investing. The light bulb went on. There was an easier way. This experience also helped me realize that so many of the opportunities we get in life come down to being in an environment that educates and inspires us.

That’s why I’m on a mission to empower people around the world to generate smart passive income through real estate investments. So you can get started sooner, achieve financial freedom faster and create the life you desire.

To your future success,

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DS205 | Making Triple NNN Lease Sexy Again | Drew Wahlgren

Aligning capital markets in both debt and equity to scale acquisitions in commercial real estate.

Reach out to me or our team directly: drew@magcp.comhttps://www.linkedin.com/company/mag-capital-partners/www.magcp.com

Commercial Real Estate | Investment Real Estate | Alternative Investments | CRE | Cash Flow |

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DS204 | Buying The Apartment You Were Leaving In | Van Sturgeon

Over the past 30 years of working really hard, I overcame every obstacle and I am very successful in business. I could have pretty much anything that I want, but I still am not happy. There is an emptiness inside of me and I start to grow depressed. "What's next?" I have past the halfway point in my life. I struggle to figure out a purpose and what to do with the rest of my life.

Growing up in Chicago during the 1970s, my parents had learned that the apartment building that we were living in was going up for sale. They mustered up the minimum downpayment and bought it, just in time when the high unemployment and mortgage rates of the late 70s slammed us. It was a struggle to survive. My neighbourhood was littered with burnt out buildings, as property owners would torch their own buildings to collect on the insurance money

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DS202 | Get Money To Work For You like The Wealthy | Chris Naugle

From pro-snowboarder to money mogul, Chris Naugle has dedicated his life to being America’s #1 Money Mentor. With a core belief that success is built not by the resources you have, but by how resourceful you can be.

His success and national acclaim have come in large part to what he’s learned first-hand from seeking a better way to wealth creation and preservation than he learned growing up.

Chris has built and owned 19 companies, with his businesses being featured in Forbes, ABC, House Hunters, and his very own HGTV pilot in 2018. He is currently founder of The Money School™, and Money Mentor for The Money Multiplier.

His success also includes managing tens of millions of dollars in assets in the financial services and advisory industry and in real estate transactions.

As an innovator and visionary in wealth-building and real estate, he empowers entrepreneurs, business owners, and real estate investors with the knowledge of how money works.

Chris is also a nationally recognized speaker, author, and podcast host. He has spoken to and taught over ten thousand Americans delivering the financial knowledge that fuels lasting freedom.

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DS199 | Unlocking The Wealth Formula | Sean Adam

At Leveraged Life Management we specialize in one thing:

Helping high paid professionals leverage a time-tested wealth building strategy of the ultra-rich.

Our technique has been used by big banks, corporations and the world’s wealthiest families to protect their legacy and grow their warehouses of wealth for over 150 years.

How?

Enter: The Leveraged Wealth Account. We use life insurance as an asset class to warehouse our cash reserves.

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DS198 | Investing in Real estate from Abroad | Alicia Jarrett

You want to acquire skills and capabilities that inspire and motivate. You seek to grow your influencing skills from being a technical expert into a high-performing leader. You want to achieve a higher success rate for those your support and mentor.

Can you exceed the 5% success rate of education programs?

If you’re like most real estate educators, you know that having the majority of your students with no success or results gives you headaches and frustration ⚠ That’s why you need a plan to hold students accountable and drive results beyond their comfort zone.

All leaders and teams experience stormy seas and feel like they need a life raft for safety.

My B-RAFT Method is that safety system: Surrounded by clearly defined Boundaries, underpinned by Relationships, Accountability, Feedback, and Trust.

Having my own real estate investing business with a large team, I know what it takes to drive a performance culture and what is needed when the seas get rough. Implementing B-RAFT has enabled my team to swim with confidence.

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DS197 | How to Transition from Broker to Real estate Investor | Samson Jagoras

Samson Jagoras, is a commercial real estate broker and the founder of Growth Vue Properties. Over his 12+ year career in business, executive leadership & entrepreneurship, he has served as a professional Futures & Commodities broker, actively invested in real estate, and acted as the Chief Strategy Officer for Madwire, an INC 500 marketing and technology company located in Fort Collins, Colorado. Samson aided in taking Madwire's revenue from 7 million to over 100 million & 35 employees to 600 employees in ten years. Having built 5 departments, consulted thousands of businesses on marketing and business operations, hiring north of 400 employees, and coaching countless business/marketing professionals, Samson now leverages to structure, negotiate and manage multifamily projects for active and passive investors. Samson graduated from the University of Colorado and holds a masters degree from Logan University.

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DS196 | How to build 8 Figure Businesses | Joe Evangelisti

Meet Joe Evangelisti, host of The Legacy Blueprint, Co-founder and/or principal of 4 companies (Digital Media, e-learning, Self-Storage Development + Real Estate Investing).

Currently President of Mammoth Conversions, LLC, and principal in Legacy Developers, HeroPropertyBuyers.com + The Syndicate Mastermind.

Joe is a real estate investor who specializes in commercial (mostly self-storage) development along the East Coast of the US.

Joe is a decorated veteran who served in the United States Navy Construction Battalion – the SeaBees –which included a tour of duty in Qatar as part of Operation Enduring Freedom and Iraqi Freedom, as well as under two Presidents at Camp David. Joe holds Letters of Commendation from the US Navy and The White House, a Letter of Appreciation from President Clinton, and numerous service medals from the US Navy and the Secretary of Defense.

Today, Joe combines that wealth of experience to create beautiful, highly-sought-after development projects. He also mentors and coaches new and seasoned business owners who want to exploit their greatness.

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